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Join Date: Aug 1997
Location: San Jose, CA
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New utility by Jeff Conrad: Sun/Moon calculator
A new utility by Jeff Conrad has been posted:
Sun/Moon Calculator. Here the description by Jeff: I have updated the Sun calculator so that it now gives rise and set times and positions for the Moon as well as the Sun. With the default settings, the calculator will provide the basic information that photographers usually need: <ol> <li> A table of Sun and Moon rise and set times and azimuths <li> A table of Sun and Moon positions throughout the day </ol> I've also added a few other features: <ol> <li> The ability to specify nonzero altitudes for rise and set--handy if the visible horizon isn't level. For example, Mt. Whitney has an altitude of approximately 10 degrees from most spots near Movie Rd; typically, the Moon hits Mt. Whitney about an hour before and 10 degrees to the south of "official" moonset. <li> The ability to search for dates on which Sun or Moon rise or set meet certain criteria, such as rising or setting within a certain azimuth range, or the Moon rising or setting with a certain phase, or within a certain time of Sun rise or set. These can be combined with nonzero rise and set altitudes; for example, you could find the dates on which the Moon sets near Mt. Whitney with alpenglow on the peak. You also easily could show that Dennis diCicco determined the correct date (1 November 1941) for Moonrise, Hernandez, New Mexico. </ol> At first glance, the Rise/Set Options may seem a bit complicated, especially when reading the Help section, but they actually are fairly simple to use after a few tries. Other Changes The location database has been expanded so that it now covers 380+ locations, including most national parks in the United States and Canada. The handling of daylight saving time/summer time is more robust, although the start and end times still are tied to U.S. rules (in the southern hemisphere, these times are simply reversed). I've added most of the common fractional-hour time zones. Performance Performance is fine when calculating rise/set times over the course of a few weeks, but the program is slow when doing searches extending over several years--such is the consequence of implementing astronomical calculations in a script. A year's worth of rise/set times takes just over 7 seconds on my 1.4 GHz Pentium 4. A 10-year search of dates takes just under 60 seconds, and prompts a "slow script" warning from Internet Explorer and Firefox unless the default warning triggers have been changed. Nonetheless, it's faster (as well as much easier) than grabbing the data from the USNO site and rearranging and analyzing it. Please feel free to leave any questions and comments here. |
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: NW Italy
Posts: 26
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New utility by Jeff Conrad: Sun/Moon calculator
great, great, great! So many times I've just been guessing at what time the moon would rise and in what direction etc. etc.
I always went on guessing based only on my experience but that works for the places I know well only and not too precisely either. I many times thought I should have worked out something like this calculator but I was just too lazy to. Thanks Mr Conrad! Lino (45°8'N, 8°31'E) |
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 837
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New utility by Jeff Conrad: Sun/Moon calculator
great, great, great! So many times I've just been guessing at what time the moon would rise and in what direction etc. etc.
Pity. There are published tables. |
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New utility by Jeff Conrad: Sun/Moon calculator
"Pity. There are published tables." WTF is that supposed to mean? You must be a Pommie with a stick up his behind.
I think this is the best sun/moon calculator I have seen. Thanks. |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 193
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New utility by Jeff Conrad: Sun/Moon calculator
Jeesh - you sound like some kind of Aussie - keep the convict talk to yourself. As far as I know jj is all Yank?
BTW - there are other excellent online calculators of this sort online |
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Moderator
Join Date: Sep 1998
Location: Rio Rancho, NM
Posts: 2,813
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New utility by Jeff Conrad: Sun/Moon calculator
Excellent addition to the site, QT, and nice job, Jeff.
Now, if we could just get one of these to interact with topo maps, and overlay the shadows in 3-D, we'd be all set. (lol) |
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: SF Bay Area, California, USA
Posts: 107
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New utility by Jeff Conrad: Sun/Moon calculator
Don't laugh too hard, Ralph. In most cases, I wouldn't know what to do
with a Moon azimuth without a computerized topo map (though I wish they'd give altitudes as well). I think the 3-D features of most such maps have a way to go, but they still sometimes are helpful. Several astronomy programs will simulate the passage of a celestial body across the horizon, and allow this to overlay a photograph. The rub is that you need a photograph of every view from every location that you want to model. I use a program that generates a table of Sun and Moon positions vs. landscape features; it's a bit short of VR, but the next step would not be out of the question for someone good at graphics. Were there sufficient demand, we might already be there. |
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 837
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New utility by Jeff Conrad: Sun/Moon calculator
Now, if we could just get one of these to interact with topo maps, and overlay the shadows in 3-D, we'd be all set. (lol)
earth.google.com/ It interacts with GPS. |
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 176
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New utility by Jeff Conrad: Sun/Moon calculator
I've used this for sunrise information: http://www.hourworld.com/
chris |
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: SF Bay Area, California, USA
Posts: 107
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New utility by Jeff Conrad: Sun/Moon calculator
If you need only information for the Sun, Wide Screen Software's SunPATH ($99)
looks as if it's very nicely done. It's available for the Mac, and using a Mac emulator, for Wintel machines. John Cook posted this link that has SunPATH on sale for $87 during September. There are several native programs available for Wintel machines, such as Fossil Creek's Heavenly Opportunity ($25) or Digital Light & Color's Ephemeris. Neither has all the features of the Sun/Moon Calculator that I wrote, but they're much faster, and Heavenly Opportunity has a much larger location database. Ephemeris is free, so the cost/benefit ratio is hard to beat. Heavenly Opportunity allows searches similar to those of my Sun/Moon Calculator, so it may be worthwhile for those who do many searches in attempt to find the perfect photo op. Neither program allows nonzero rise/set altitudes. |
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